[Apple-Crop] Cueva/Double Nickel

Two Onion Farm farmer at twoonionfarm.com
Mon May 1 08:18:44 EDT 2017


I'm certainly not an expert!  The cueva label says "May cause russeting 
of susceptible apple varieties. Do not exceed the 1.0 gallon of product/ 
100 gallons water use rate."  When Kerik started me on this program, he 
said "we never get fruit finish injury. However, depending on your spray 
volume, you could have a different experience. We use 100 gal/A in our 
block."


On 5/1/2017 7:13 AM, Vincent Philion wrote:
> I hope you meant a Low volume of water. High volume = slow drying = 
> russeting. This is very easy to demonstrate. We do it as a "control" 
> in plots. We always have copper induced russeting at 500 L/ha and none 
> at 225 L/ha.
>
> Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.
>
> Le 1 mai 2017 à 08:05, Two Onion Farm <farmer at twoonionfarm.com 
> <mailto:farmer at twoonionfarm.com>> a écrit :
>
>> Kerik Cox at Cornell has done trials with this combination for cedar 
>> apple rust, summer fungal diseases, and fireblight and has had good 
>> results.
>>
>> We started using the combination in our organic orchard last year and 
>> did not see any problems with fruit russeting.  Kerik did caution me 
>> to use a high volume of water to avoid toxicity from the copper (100 
>> gallons per acre vs our normal 50 in our high density orchard).   We 
>> have used 2 qts/acre Cueva + 2 lbs/acre 2ble nickel.
>>
>> Kerik also suggested that the 2ble nickel might be unnecessary and 
>> that cueva alone might be sufficient, but that may be theoretical at 
>> this point.  The 2ble nickel does add a lot of cost.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Chris & Juli McGuire
>> Two Onion Farm
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>>
>> On 5/1/2017 6:43 AM, maurice tougas wrote:
>>> A couple years ago I recall discussion regarding the use of 
>>> Cueva/Double Nickel combination as an alternative and/or rotation 
>>> with strep for fireblight management. Is anyone aware of further 
>>> research regarding this combination esp as to regards to crop safety 
>>> and efficacy ?
>>>
>>> Mo Tougas
>>>
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