[Apple-Crop] NAD

Duane Greene dgreene at pssci.umass.edu
Thu Apr 13 09:41:41 EDT 2017


John,

     Two years ago I did an experiment where I did apply Amid-Thin at 
petal fall alone or followed by BA to Gala.  Amid-Thin was used at a 
rate of 8 oz/100 gal.  The Amid-Thin alone spray thinned modestly (not 
enough) but followed by BA the thinning was acceptable.  The best 
thinning result was obtained when carbaryl was applied at petal fall 
followed by a 10 mm spray of carbaryl plus BA.

Regards,

Duane


On 4/12/2017 10:35 PM, John Bruguiere wrote:
>
> Anyone out there had any experience(positive or negative) using Amid 
> Thin(NAD) at petal fall to help thin Gala prior to 8MM (using 6-ba 
> then)?  Mature trees, heavy bloom.
>
> John Bruguiere
>
>
> On 1/29/2017 10:27 PM, wincowgill at centurylink.net wrote:
>> Apple Croppers- Jon and I do try to keep a pretty hands off approach 
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>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Jon Clements <jon.clements at umass.edu 
>>> <mailto:jon.clements at umass.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea, we try to be pretty hands-off with apple-crop, and I have 
>>> gotten a little lost in the thread this afternoon, but please let's 
>>> not let this get out of hand. Last thing I want to be is a moderator...
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Vincent Philion 
>>> <vincent.philion at irda.qc.ca <mailto:vincent.philion at irda.qc.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     You are missing the point. There is plenty of room for
>>>     expressing your political and religious views in other forums.
>>>
>>>     http://virtualorchard.net/applecrop.html
>>>     <http://virtualorchard.net/applecrop.html>
>>>
>>>     “Discussion relating to all aspects of apple production from
>>>     cultivar selection, tree growth and performance, rootstock
>>>     development and testing to the development of sustainable
>>>     production systems is welcome.”
>>>
>>>     Vincent Philion, agr. M.Sc. IRDA.
>>>
>>>     “an environment that once again values and rewards the
>>>     entrepreneur”. Hopefully, there is room for the “environment” in
>>>     your environment!
>>>
>>>
>>>>     Le 29 janv. 2017 à 16:28, Kurt W. Alstede
>>>>     <kurt at alstedefarms.com <mailto:kurt at alstedefarms.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>     Hello Fellow Horticulturalists and Farmers,
>>>>     I debated whether I should opine or not…there seems to be so
>>>>     little tolerance these days for alternative view points.  Yet,
>>>>     to suggest that politics don’t influence our businesses and
>>>>     farms would be not only a mistake but also a disservice to our
>>>>     goal of helping and supporting one another who grow apples.
>>>>     What I can share with you with confidence as a full time family
>>>>     farm owner in New Jersey is that farming under the Obama
>>>>     administration was more difficult, more costly, and much more
>>>>     challenging than any other time in my 35 years of farming.  I
>>>>     have seen a steady increase in the direct costs associated with
>>>>     regulatory compliance as well as the amount of management time
>>>>     that I and my team spend simply making sure that our business
>>>>     can operate….none of which helps us grow a better apple for our
>>>>     customers.  We are only 10 days into the new administration and
>>>>     I can tell you that I look forward to the opportunity to
>>>>     advance our family business to the next generation in an
>>>>     environment that once again values and rewards the
>>>>     entrepreneur, hard work, rural values, and the risk that we all
>>>>     take each year as farmers.   I also look forward to a positive
>>>>     business environment that will allow us to expand our farm,
>>>>     purchase and preserve more farmland, employ more people, and
>>>>     stimulate the local economy.
>>>>     Simply stated….I am very excited!
>>>>     Best wishes for a successful growing season and may God Bless
>>>>     the United States of America.
>>>>     *Kurt W. Alstede*
>>>>     General Manager,
>>>>     Alstede Farms, LLC
>>>>     P.O. Box 278
>>>>     1 Alstede Farms Lane,
>>>>     Chester, New Jersey 07930
>>>>     United States of America
>>>>     Tel: 908-879-7189 <tel:%28908%29%20879-7189>
>>>>     Fax: 908-879-7815 <tel:%28908%29%20879-7815>
>>>>     www.alstedefarms.com <http://www.alstedefarms.com/>
>>>>     <image001.jpg><image002.jpg>
>>>>     *From:*apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-bounces at virtualorchard.com
>>>>     <mailto:apple-crop-bounces at virtualorchard.com>]*On Behalf
>>>>     Of*Vincent Philion
>>>>     *Sent:*Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
>>>>     *To:*Apple-Crop discussion list
>>>>     *Subject:*Re: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to
>>>>     Apple Crop
>>>>     Please keep "alternative facts" and politics out of this thread.
>>>>
>>>>     Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Le 29 janv. 2017 à 16:06, Hugh Thomas <hughthomas44 at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:hughthomas44 at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>         The intended effect was to promote the idea that the right
>>>>         wing extremist Donald Trump was trying to suppress
>>>>         opposition voices. Contrast this to the fact that for years
>>>>         the fascist left has threatened any scientist that
>>>>         questions global warming. The death penalty has been called
>>>>         for many times. By the way, the idea:  “97% of scientists
>>>>         agree…” is just more fake news.
>>>>         On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Cooley
>>>>         <dcooley at umass.edu <mailto:dcooley at umass.edu>> wrote:
>>>>         Since journalists are among the most dishonest human beings
>>>>         on earth, we probably should all just stop paying attention
>>>>         to the news, and let the new administration get on with the
>>>>         important business of making America great again. No
>>>>         offense Con, but America first!
>>>>         But if you’re not inclined to stop paying attention, it
>>>>         turns out the USDA kerfuffle came about from an internal
>>>>         decision, not the White House. It strikes me as typical of
>>>>         ARS culture.
>>>>         http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/firestorm-over-supposed-gag-order-agricultural-scientists-was-self-inflicted-wound
>>>>         <http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/firestorm-over-supposed-gag-order-agricultural-scientists-was-self-inflicted-wound>
>>>>
>>>>         Dan
>>>>
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